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老國音 #60

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@307587 307587 commented Sep 9, 2024

未完成

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  • 未完成,應該用 draft 而非 open 狀態
  • 列出的三項參考資料,僅第二項 rime-bepemefeve 宜作參考,而第一項 Old-National-Pronunciation 不完整,第三項 lau_guoq_in 是「偽老國音」

※ 關於「偽老國音」請參:https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv17377530/

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307587 commented Oct 24, 2024

爲什麼要改上面「攷」部份的連結?WV條目有什麼問題?那版本的推導器不是廢了嗎?

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307587 commented Nov 23, 2024

@syimyuzya 至於考察「古代同地位演變成現今不同音」的正音問題,我找到最齊全的就只有@baopaau 的字音表,@baopaau 你對推導這些地位的今音有什麼看法?(如莊組臻韻入聲)

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untunt commented Nov 24, 2024

@syimyuzya 至於考察「古代同地位演變成現今不同音」的正音問題,我找到最齊全的就只有@baopaau 的字音表,@baopaau 你對推導這些地位的今音有什麼看法?(如莊組臻韻入聲)

这种通常不需要“我们”提供看法,看实际字音的分化情况就能判断了。例如庄组臻摄入声,用音韻地位查詢器莊組 臻韻 入聲 字,再查 baopaau 的字表(不算其中《康熙字典》的):

  • 庄母:楖瀄 ㄓ˙、㘉 ㄗ˙/ㄗㄧ˙、櫛 ㄗㄧㄝ˙
  • 初母:㓼䜉 ㄔ˙
  • 崇母:𪗨 ㄔㄨㄛ˙
  • 生母:瑟蝨璱 ㄕㄜ˙、飋 ㄕㄛ˙

尽管它实际上是不规则分化,但我们仍然可以放心写下这样的规则:

  ['真臻殷韻', [
    ['生母', 'əʔ'],
    ['莊組', 'ʅʔ'],
    ['', 'iʔ'],
  ]],

像“見組泰合韻韻母”,实际上它不是个问题,疑母泰韵合口去声变 uai 这是一个规则演变,只是它只涉及这一个音节罢了,不能类推给其他见组

(我还意识到,韵母演变规则应该以摄 + 音韻地位.韻圖等 为条件来写,不过可以留待本 pr 合入之后我们再改)

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graphemecluster commented Jan 29, 2025

我想你不懂怎麼 resolve conflict,我幫你處理了,但在我們再次接受 review 之前,你還需要執行命令 fix 好 lint 問題以通過 CI check,以及仔細閲讀每一個 comment 並妥善處置好過往所有 review

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307587 commented Jan 30, 2025

sorry我只是按錯了

[`注音符號
否的話就用國際音標`, true], //完
['注音符號省略陰平調號', false, {hidden: 選項.注音符號 !== true}], //完
選項.注音符號 !== true ? '音標風格' : undefined,
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@graphemecluster 這和你建議的...(選項.注音符號 !== false ? [/* ... */] : [])有什麼不同?

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就是不用罰抄十次 { hidden: 選項.注音符號 !== true } 的分別

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307587 commented Feb 7, 2025

屌,又手殘按錯,sorry @graphemecluster

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嗱,你自己小心狼來了啊

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